Monday Highlights

Good morning.

  1. Well, there’s an (unintended) argument for drone use.
  2. A maths trick in narrative form.
  3. About that pope fella.
  4. Cinema: Pacific Rim and a litmus test.
  5. Detroit, one in 100? The first penguin to test the waters for whales and seals?
  6. Scrubbed from Mr Obama’s past by a friendly press perhaps?
  7. Climate, crises and costs. Compare/constrast with this (and don’t ask if the climate change is just the el Nino/Nina cycle).
  8. Ah … a last line, I still think Mr Wilde’s was better (“on his deathbed reputedly he said, “Either that wallpaper goes or I go … and died.”)
  9. Manners and (just as importantly) … some interesting words I didn’t know. So now your task for the week is to use “blatteroon” in a sentence.
  10. Hmmm, I hit #1 and #4. Re #1 without the “droopy oversized” that’s regular summer wear for me and I no longer own any blue jeans having replaced them all with #4, which is all about the pockets (and not having to sit on my wallet).

 

11 Responses to Monday Highlights

  1. 6.Scrubbed from Mr Obama’s past by a friendly press perhaps?

    How come every time this argument is done it’s raised without even acknowledging that Zimmerman was stalking Martin? Instead it’s presented as if Martin just jumped out of the shadows and tackled Zimmerman to the ground for no particular reason?

  2. 5.Detroit, one in 100? The first penguin to test the waters for whales and seals?

    Incoherent nonesense from that blog. For example, the Fed cannot ‘print money’. The Fed does create money but by law can only buy assets of equal market value with it. This is why the Federal Reserve buys so many Treasury bills.

    As for the ‘horror of moving to the cities in the 80′s’. If you had done so you’d be pretty well off now. cities have been going through a revival and if you had brought up property in the 80′s you’d be sitting on some nice capital appreciation now. A city itself doesn’t actually goes bankrupt, it’s the city gov’t that does. That means it’s pretty bad if you happen to be owed money by the city (say if you have a pension from them) but either irrelevant to positive if you just happen to live in the city (residents no doubt would rather the city free up funds from debt service to pay for more garbage pickup, fixing potholes and police).

    Detroit is a curious case in that the city was 70% dedicated directly or indirectly to the auto industry and now that the industry has shrunk by about 70% it’s pretty hard to see how things couldn’t end up in bankruptcy or near it. If you ask who else could go this route, well I’d ask what other cities could be in this boat? For example, if tomorrow the oil industry collapses what would happen to Houston or Dallas? Maybe Miami and Ft Lauderdale should some natural diaster totally destry the tourist industry there (BP oil leak on steroids?). Beyond that I can’t really think of many other cities that are as dependent on one paticular industry as Detroit was.

  3. Boonton,
    Stalking? Hmm. That’s an interesting description of neighborhood watch behavior. Is that a generic term for that sort of activity and apparently you think aggravated battery is relieved by a presumptive “stand your ground” defense for your hypothetical Mr Martin trial. I think the Martin cell phone contents and character witnesses would be problematic there (the prior B&E demoted to school suspension for example). So did Obama try his hand at B&E?

  4. Stalking? Hmm. That’s an interesting description of neighborhood watch behavior.

    Neighborhood Watch behavior? Let’s see armed man follows teen in car. Then gets out of car following down dark allys, changing his path so he goes wherever the teen goes. Is that Watch behavior? Can you show me materials from Neighborhood Watch groups that advise their members to do this behavior? Suppose Mr. Zimmerman wanted to change his bahavior from ‘Watch behavior’ to ‘stalking behavior’, what actions would he have then taken that would be different from what he was already doing?

  5. . I think the Martin cell phone contents and character witnesses would be problematic there (the prior B&E demoted to school suspension for example).

    I have several relatives who can match Martin’s ‘problematic record’ (tardiness, truancy, graffetti and possibly taking some jewelry). Not only have they not been shot, I seriously doubt anyone would profile them…whether they were walking down streets at dark or wandering through a department store.

  6. Boonton,

    I have several relatives who can match Martin’s ‘problematic record’ (tardiness, truancy, graffetti and possibly taking some jewelry)

    And

    Not only have they not been shot, I seriously doubt anyone would profile them…

    Sounds like “not being shot” might be a matter of time … and I doubt the latter, they probably are “profiled” as trouble by alert store security and other security types. And if they commit aggravated battery on someone who is carrying concealed “being shot” is a definite risk.

    Let’s see armed man follows teen in car.

    Armed man who never drew his gun until he was knocked down, sat on, beaten and when the beating opened his coat and revealed the gun and the assailant went for the gun then drew and shot. Mr Z when asked by 911 to “not follow” … didn’t. Mr Martin backtracked and found Mr Z who was no longer following him. If he wanted to be a stalker he would not have called 911 asked for advice and followed it.

  7. Sounds like “not being shot” might be a matter of time … and I doubt the latter, they probably are “profiled” as trouble by alert store security and other security types

    ‘Alert store security’, ok you live in a rather charmed world. And one that isn’t very representative of the country you actually live in. About 3.1% of the US population is either in prison or under some form of correctional supervision like parole. Of course the portion who have been in jail at some point in their lives is even higher (for whites it’s 5.8%, even higher for blacks and hispanics). So being shot is probably not a ‘matter of time’. Very few people in the us will die of gunshots, about 1 in 8802. That makes for quite a bit of gun victims but odds are even spending time in jail wouldn’t make betting on gun death very safe. Of course that doesn’t actually apply to Martin because he was never in jail, never convicted of any crime….never even charged with one it seems.

    Armed man who never drew his gun until he was knocked down, sat on, beaten and when the beating opened his coat and revealed the gun and the assailant went for the gun then drew and shot

    We know this how? If he had drawn his gun before on Martin, would he have volunteered that information to the police? (Of course, there’s a chance too that Martin picked up he was armed even if he techincally didn’t draw his gun. If you’re following me around at night with your hand in your pocket for no good reason it’s quite reasonable for me to assume you’re up to no good and you might be armed). You seem to have assumed because Zimmerman was not proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt, his story must be taken at face value in all respects. But two can play at that game, since Martin was never convicted of anything what right do you have to assume anything about him?

  8. Boonton

    Of course that doesn’t actually apply to Martin because he was never in jail, never convicted of any crime….never even charged with one it seems.

    A co-worker informed me that in a High School search Mr Martin was discovered to have a bag of jewelry and a screwdriver by the police. They decided try to return the jewelry but not charge Mr Martin, merely suspend him. It is ironic that the fact that he was not charged with robbery might have cost him his life.

    If he had drawn his gun before on Martin, would he have volunteered that information to the police?

    Uhm, so how exactly did he get his nose broken and the abrasions on his head? Remember this guy is a fellow liberal, Obama voter and tutor of people like Mr Martin. He’s a one of you.

    But two can play at that game, since Martin was never convicted of anything what right do you have to assume anything about him?

    You do realize that there was lots of background on Martin not admitted in the trial but which has leaked to the public?

  9. but not charge Mr Martin

    I seem to recall you making much of ‘innocent until proven guilty’. You argue not only must we consider Zimmerman innocent because he was found not guilty, we must accept everything he said at face value because he has not been convicted of anything. Sounds like that should cut both ways shouldn’t it?

    Uhm, so how exactly did he get his nose broken and the abrasions on his head? Remember this guy is a fellow liberal, Obama voter and tutor of people like Mr Martin.

    He is? Florida has open voting records now? ‘Fellow liberal’, ok by what standards? I recall him saying nothing of his political stances.

    But even if that’s the case, what does that matter in terms of unfair profiling? Fact is the profiling Mr. Obama complains about isn’t only done by insane crazy racist Repbulicans but quite often done by people who veer liberal, even done sometimes by black people against other black people.

    You do realize that there was lots of background on Martin not admitted in the trial but which has leaked to the public?

    If ‘innocent until proven guilty’ means what you claim then there is no such ‘background info’, there is only the fact that he had as spotless a criminal record as Zimmerman.

  10. I’ll note that when it comes to racial bias, a liberal may even be worse than average since things like “I voted for Obama” or the infamous “But I have black friends!” are likely deceive them into thinking they are incapable of unfairness.

  11. BTW, what exactly should the procedure for black teens in Zimmerman’s hood to not be profiled? You’ve said Martin should have been because of his school record, but, of course, Zimmerman couldn’t have known anything about that at the time. Even if the shooting didn’t happen, it is rather unusual to have the police called on you and be questioned for simply walking home.

    What ‘rules’ could you provide that would have avoided even the police being bothered about Martin? Don’t be out after sundown? After 6:30 PM? Don formal wear even on a Sunday evening and the rain?

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